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AI is coming. But the biggest threat to your organisation isn't the technology. It's what happens to your people when nobody talks to them about it.

In this episode, Lindsey Frances sits down with Shaun Phillips — technology consultant, professional coach, mentor to the next generation of entrepreneurs, and founder of Tech That Cares. With over 30 years in technology, Shaun has arrived at a conclusion that might surprise you: the most important thing in any business transformation has absolutely nothing to do with technology at all.

It starts with people. And it always has.

This is one of the most important leadership conversations of our time — and one of the most human.

Whether you're a CEO, a founder, an HR director or a leader navigating the pressure to implement AI right now — this conversation will reframe everything.

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