Speed without craft creates undifferentiated products. The real cost of AI acceleration in financial services is the slow erosion of what makes experiences worth building.
Julia Challicom leads Customer Strategy and Design for financial services at Deloitte Digital UK, helping tier-one banks and insurers transform the way customer insight shapes business decisions. In this conversation, she and Jochem dig into the tension between top-down pressure to go faster and the ground-level reality of data fragmentation, misaligned teams, and journey ownership that no one has truly solved - and why blindly replacing craft with AI tooling is a bet that will cost organisations more than they expect.
About Julia
Julia Challicom is Customer Strategy and Design Lead for Financial Services at Deloitte Digital UK. She works with large-scale tier-one banks, insurers, and wealth management firms to transform customer experience and design customer-led services, with a particular focus on journey management, AI integration, and translating customer insights into business outcomes. She is a vocal champion of responsible and inclusive design, and is deeply concerned about the erosion of craft skills as organisations rush to automate. Her perspective is shaped by years working inside some of the UK's most complex financial institutions, giving her a practitioner's view of how transformation actually unfolds - and where it quietly stalls.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Organisations racing to go faster with AI are building the wrong things faster - alignment to customer journeys is the missing fix.
Data access, data quality, and data architecture are all broken at once; no client is immune.
Journey ownership fails when it's given to someone too junior, or a senior person with no freed-up capacity.
Replacing craft with AI tools doesn't improve output quality - it just removes the people who caught the problems.
Tokenomics is the next CFO conversation: agentic systems cost far more than the teams they were supposed to replace.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:47 Where the pressure to go faster actually breaks in enterprise CX
03:39 Why faster development without journey alignment produces more of the wrong things
04:34 The data problem: access, quality, architecture - and the cottage industries they create
08:11 Top-down strategy vs. ground-level AI sprawl: how to get a meaningful start
11:49 Why journey-centric working matters more than ever in financial services
18:22 The movement toward journey centricity: Lloyds, fintechs, and the ripple effect
20:41 Leading indicators of transformation: what to measure before satisfaction scores move
22:21 PI planning and the disconnect between discovery work and what actually gets prioritised
27:08 Journey ownership models: what works, what fails, and where it's still maturing
33:42 Journeys as a data model: the AI opportunity hiding in connected customer context
35:47 How the consultant's role is changing - and the slow erosion of craft that worries Julia most
43:00 KYC, agents, and the real ROI calculation of automating regulated journeys
48:02 Conversational journeys, AI search, and why the fundamental questions haven't changed
57:45 Tokens vs. time: how CFOs are starting to scrutinise the true cost of AI initiatives
01:04:30 Where to find Julia and the Deloitte–TheyDo alliance
LINKEDIN PROFILES
Guest: Julia Challicom - https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-challicom/Host: Jochem van der Veer - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jochemvanderveer/
THEYDO
Learn more about Journey Management with TheyDo: https://www.theydo.com
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