After 15 years at River Valley, Kirk shares the news: he and his family are stepping into a new calling as lead pastor of Freedom Church in Texas. Logan and Kirk talk through how it all started, the difference between staying planted and taking a faith leap, and what it means for the podcast going forward. Then: a wide-ranging conversation on the WNBA and trans athletes, culture, and why speaking the truth in love sometimes means being willing to offend.
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