James Elbaor, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Marlton LLC joins OPM to discuss why the private credit boom is officially over. Elbaor explains how artificial intelligence is threatening the SaaS businesses that make up over half a trillion dollars of private credit exposure, while also detailing how liquidity gates are currently trapping investors in massive interval funds like BCRED. The discussion concludes by exploring lucrative upcoming merger opportunities in the public BDC space and analyzing why asset managers utilizing permanent capital vehicles are being rewarded with premium market multiples.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:42 Private Credit Redemptions Continue

07:03 IPO Window Shuts & Credit Fund M&A

15:28 AI Threat to SaaS Borrowers

16:51 Sponsor Message Plutus

18:17 Private Credit vs Private Equity

24:25 Systemic Risk and Wrappers

29:15 Public vs Private BDC Gap

34:46 Why Interval Funds List

39:44 Alt Managers Valuation Reset

43:33 Permanent Capital Explained

50:17 Hedge Funds vs Private Equity

54:41 Pershing Square Liquidity

01:04:17 Conclusion

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