Being a great lawyer has less to do with knowing the law and A LOT more to do with listening, building trust, and managing people and figuring out how to move work forward without becoming the “department of no.” In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Nicole Lester Arrindell, Head of State Regulatory and Legislative Affairs and Associate General Counsel at Equitable, to talk about servant leadership, public service, career purpose and the real-world skills lawyers need but are not always taught.

Nicole shares how her work across legal aid, government, in-house counsel, teaching, and bar leadership shaped her core belief: leadership is not a title; it is a daily practice.

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