Are you fucking with me?
Yes.
Great. I thought so.
It might sound negative, but it’s actually a sign of huge respect. Possibly the most intimate secret dialogue a reader can have with a writer.
It’s a dialogue that arises on numerous occasions when reading Jo Lloyd’s work, and it’s a dialogue my guest and I both experienced positively in reading this inventive and immersive collection of short stories.
Indeed, welcome to The Library of Lazy Thinking Podcast, with me, your host, Glenn Fisher.
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In this episode, my very special guest is the writer and artist Adrian Duncan, whose latest novel, A Thought Without Collision, is published by Tuskar Press. We discuss his pick for the library, the 2021 short story collection The Earth, Thy Great Exchequer, Ready Lies by Jo Lloyd.
About Adrian Duncan
Adrian Duncan’s debut novel Love Notes from a German Building Site won the 2019 John McGahern Book Prize. His second novel A Sabbatical in Leipzig was shortlisted for the Kerry Group Irish Novel of the Year Award 2020 and was republished in the UK in late 2022 with Colm Tóibín and Peter Straus’ Tuskar Rock Press. His collection of short stories Midfield Dynamo was published in March 2021 and was longlisted for the Edge Hill Prize. His third novel, The Geometer Lobachevsky, published in April 2022, was shortlisted for the Walter Scott Prize and the Kerry Group Irish Novel of the Year. His fourth novel, The Gorgeous Inertia of the Earth, was published to critical acclaim in January of 2025 by Tuskar Rock Press, and his fifth, A Thought without Collision, was published in August 2026.
About Jo Lloyd
Jo Lloyd won the BBC National Short Story Award in 2019 and an O. Henry Prize in 2018. Her stories have appeared in Zoetrope: All-Story, Ploughshares, Southern Review, and elsewhere. The Earth, Thy Great Exchequer, Ready Lies is her first collection. She grew up in South Wales, where she now lives.
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About Glenn Fisher
Glenn Fisher is a writer—wait, Glenn Fisher is me. I’m the one writing this. Let’s drop the third-person act. My writing has been published in Lunate, The Paris Bitter Hearts Pit, 3am Magazine, Dogmatika, and Litro Magazine. I write about books and interview other writers and artists here in The Library of Lazy Thinking. I live in Sheffield and work as a freelance copywriter. I have had a best-selling non-fiction book published on the subject called The Art of the Click. It was published by Harriman House and shortlisted for Business Book of the Year. It has been translated into Simplified Chinese and Korean. I also have a dog called Pablo. He is harder to translate. Indeed, most of my life revolves around trying to understand his often unreasonable demands. Meanwhile, I am currently working on my debut novel, The Invention of Memory, and on the eternal, soul-destroying task of finding an agent.
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