This week, Woody and Piers are joined by Jon Beer, Exeter City fan and co-host of You Don’t Know What You’re Doing, for one of the bleakest away day stories the show has ever heard.

There’s plenty on lower-league obsession, Devon derby anxiety, Ollie Watkins pride, fan-owned football, why nobody needs a “Prem team”, and the strange burden of caring far too much about 11 men in shorts. Jon also explains why his family once travelled to Wembley during Covid to watch Exeter lose a play-off final on a laptop outside the stadium.

A truly heroic low point.

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Hosts - Chris "Woody" Wood and Piers Hewitt

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