What if you didn’t have to give up cheese to eat plant-based?
In this episode of The Wild Party Podcast, Stefanie sits down with Ali Lawrence, founder of Spirit and Abundance, to talk about how traditional fermentation techniques are transforming dairy-free cheese into something truly crave-worthy.
Ali shares her journey from culinary school, where butter and heavy foods left her feeling disconnected, to discovering plant-based living through Zen Buddhism and a life-changing trip to Japan. What started as cooking classes quickly evolved into a small-batch cheese business built on whole ingredients, real cultures, and serious craftsmanship.
They dive into why most store-bought vegan cheeses miss the mark, how fermentation creates that rich, satisfying mouthfeel, and what it actually takes to build a food business from scratch, including losing her production space with just two weeks’ notice.
If you’ve ever said, “I could never give up cheese,” this episode might change your mind.
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