The Manchester derby delivers another VAR argument, but are Manchester United’s problems the bigger story? We debate Foden’s red card, Bruno’s role in it and whether City look ready to push Arsenal all the way.

Elsewhere, Hull keep upsetting expectations, Chelsea’s defending raises questions and Coventry’s miserable start prompts an uncomfortable Frank Lampard comparison. Flav explains why he’s still positive about Tottenham despite the missing goals, while Dan searches for some normality at Crystal Palace.

Plus, Harry Kane’s Bayern legacy, the managers you want to see fail and a listener’s question about taking penalties to escape prison.

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