Neck pain and headache often travel together. But as Gwen Jull and Zhiqi Liang explain in this episode, that does not automatically mean the cervical spine is driving the headache.

In this AAOMPT and IFOMPT collaborative episode, hosts Amy McDevitt and Michael Boney explore the evolving science around cervicogenic headache, migraine-associated neck pain, sensitization, and clinical examination.

Gwen Jull discusses the development and validation of physical criteria for cervicogenic headache, emphasizing the need for a cluster of comparable musculoskeletal signs involving joint, movement, and muscle impairments.

Zhiqi Liang expands the conversation into migraine, reminding clinicians that neck pain can be part of a migraine presentation rather than proof of a cervical source. She challenges clinicians to rethink the meaning of symptom reproduction during upper cervical examination and to consider sensitivity, irritability, and migraine cycles when examining and treating these patients.

Together, the guests make a compelling case for more careful clinical reasoning: listen to the patient’s story, examine without over-provoking symptoms, look for comparable signs, and match treatment to the impairments that are actually present.

Big takeaway:

The neck may matter — but clinicians need to prove it through the whole clinical picture.

Timestamped Chapters

00:00 — Welcome to Hands On, Hands Off

00:31 — Introducing the AAOMPT and IFOMPT collaboration

01:19 — Meet Gwen Jull and Zhiqi Liang

03:19 — Why headache and neck pain matter to manual physical therapists

03:40 — Major shifts in clinical thinking around cervicogenic headache

04:09 — Validated physical criteria for cervicogenic headache

05:37 — Joint, movement, and muscle signs

07:33 — The physiotherapist’s role in differential diagnosis

08:02 — How headache can refer pain into the neck

08:51 — Are cervicogenic headache and migraine distinct or a spectrum?

09:26 — Migraine as a primary neurological condition

11:33 — Sorting out mixed headache presentations

12:05 — Patient history clues: migraine vs cervicogenic headache

13:27 — Comparable signs and why intensity matters

14:51 — How much does pain location matter?

16:20 — Why no single feature is enough

17:17 — Neck pain in migraine may not be a neck problem

17:53 — Rethinking symptom reproduction during examination

19:22 — How to decide whether the neck is a driver

20:01 — Avoiding confirmation bias

21:27 — Why non-provocative examination matters

23:08 — Scapular dysfunction and other regional contributors

24:37 — Broadening beyond the diagnostic cluster

26:05 — Sensory-motor control, dizziness, and balance

28:41 — Local cervical findings and global systems

29:31 — Listening for migraine evolution over time

30:46 — Central sensitization and comparable physical findings

31:28 — PIVM vs PAVM assessment considerations

32:08 — Avoiding symptom provocation in migraine

33:04 — Migraine cycles and changing sensitivity

34:36 — Trial treatment and rigorous re-evaluation

35:41 — Individualized care beyond guidelines

36:19 — Who may benefit from a cervical-focused approach?

37:07 — Education, exercise, sleep, stress, and lifestyle strategies

39:02 — Let the physical exam guide treatment

39:46 — PTs as rehabilitation experts, not just pain reducers

41:38 — One assumption clinicians should rethink tomorrow

42:12 — Don’t forget the jaw

42:27 — Neck pain may reflect sensitivity, not source

43:16 — Final reflections and closing

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