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In this Director's Cut episode, we're revisiting one of our more vulnerable conversations with Jane Marie Chen, a Harvard and Stanford graduate and the founder of Embrace, the organization that helped save over one million babies around the world.
Tune in for new thoughts on:
✅ How achievement can become a trauma response
✅ Why children of immigrants feel the pressure to prove themselves
✅ How trauma lives in the body and why healing isn't linear
✅ Why surrender may be the key to sustainable success
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📚Jane’s book recs: The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk and No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz
Timestamps:
00:49: Introducing Jane Marie
03:45: How to watch the episode
06:22: Why Jane wrote ‘Like a Wave We Break’
09:39: Achievement as a coping mechanism
15:50: How trauma lives in the body
27:29: How to stay open and have boundaries
36:19: How to tune into your body
39:48: Why control is an illusion
50:25: Cherie on slowing down
54:40: How ‘My pain became my purpose’
56:28: Starting your own healing journey
57:15: Closing thoughts
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