The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech

In this episode, Elizabeth Sullivan talks with Anthony Pugliese and Matt Pearman about Pugliese's experience when he  joined a global cybersecurity audit at Barclays. They discuss how the team planned and scoped an audit of a cloud platform used to build and run artificial intelligence, the value of senior leadership involvement, and the importance of balancing structure with flexibility. The conversation also explores cyber resilience, third-party risk, leadership engagement, and translating complex cybersecurity observations into meaningful information for executives and boards.
  • HOST:
    • Elizabeth Sullivan, CIA, CRMA, CCSA,
      Senior Vice President and Chief Risk and Audit Officer, Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority
       
  • GUESTS:
    • President and CEO, The Institute of Internal Auditors
       
    • Matt Pearman, CIA, CISA, CISM, CISSP
      Chief Internal Auditor for the Chief Operating Officer, Barclays
       

KEY POINTS:

  • (00:00) Introduction
  • (00:37) Goals of the Barclays Cloud AI Platform Audit
  • (01:34) How a Chapter Event Led to an Invitation
  • (03:00) Teamwork and Collaboration in Kickoff Sessions
  • (05:02) Balancing Structure With Flexibility
  • (07:18) New Hire Development and Hands-On Management
  • (08:21) Prioritizing Key Controls When Setting Scope
  • (09:28) Gathering and Challenging Evidence
  • (10:43) The Value of Curious, Thoughtful Questions
  • (11:56) Senior Leadership Support Builds Credibility
  • (13:54) Adding Context Without Impairing Independence
  • (16:43) Cyber Resilience, Governance, and Third-Party Risk
  • (19:24) Translating Technical Findings Into Business Implications
  • (22:05) Showing the Discipline Behind Each Engagement
  • (24:24) Lessons in Rigor, Relevance, and Common Sense
  • (27:32) Future IIA Standards, Guidance, and Training


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