This was an explosive conversation. 

We talked about: 

Transgenderism, where it came from and its tragic record of failure 

Male, female, and the importance of hormones and gender in a Christian worldview 

Good, evil, and how transgenderism doesn’t fit the narrative of evolutionary biology 

Stories of transgendered individuals who were redeemed by Christ 

Why “conversion therapy” is considered “unscientific” 

Fair warning. This episode is a candid conversation about transgenderism, medicine, and faith. If you're around children or listening in a public place, you may want to use headphones.

Patrick Hahn is a researcher, lecturer, and author who has spent his career studying the harm caused by the medicalization of everyday life.

Here’s exactly what they cover

00:00 – Why an integrative medicine podcast is tackling youth gender medicine at all, how explicit this discussion gets, and a clear content warning for parents

02:22 – Hahn’s journey from evolutionary biology and psychiatric genetics into chronicling medical harm, including his own stroke after a COVID booster and why it pushed him to write on pediatric gender medicine

08:44 – The origins of gender medicine: 1920s Berlin surgeries, Elmer Belt at UCLA, and why many early surgeons quietly walked away once they saw long‑term outcomes

14:20 – What the Johns Hopkins and Dutch clinic data actually showed about adult gender transition and mental health, and how the field pivoted toward treating children and teens when adult results failed to deliver

16:24 – Hahn’s attempt to build an ethical framework on evolution alone, where it broke down, and what that means for how we think about the body and the person

18:12 – Dr. Stillman’s experience prescribing bioidentical hormones, and his perspective on hormones, faith, and lived masculinity and femininity in real patients

22:01 – What is known about puberty blockers and cross‑sex hormones in young people: bone density, fertility, brain development, and a case of measurable IQ loss

23:28 – Hormones in the wider environment: endocrine disruptors, Pottinger’s cats, Hahn’s observations from Ghana, and how diet and toxins may be reshaping male and female bodies

28:44 – Clinical patterns Dr. Stillman is seeing: low testosterone in young men, a rise in congenital genital abnormalities, and what those trends might suggest

36:28 – What a functioning society would simply refuse to permit, how institutional decay lets this continue, and the parallels to integrative medicine’s own fight for legitimacy

42:25 – The political and legal landscape: state‑level bans, Medicare/Medicaid restrictions, and why both Hahn and Dr. Stillman see COVID as a turning point in public trust

44:47 – Personal stories from Hahn’s research (including a man who lived as a woman for 31 years), birth rates and family size, religious conversion and shifts in identity, and practical steps for families and local activism

Learn more about Patrick’s work: www.patrickhahn.net

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