Porsche makes some very good electric cars. But are they actually the best EVs? I wanted to answer that question with someone who has driven nearly everything.
Jonny Lieberman is Senior Features Editor at MotorTrend, host of Driving With Jonny, co-host of The InEVitable, and a regular on Spike’s Car Radio. He has driven everything from early Porsche 911s to the Taycan Turbo GT Weissach with the Manthey kit around the Nürburgring.
And Jonny has opinions.
We talk about what Porsche gets right with the Taycan, Macan EV and new electric Cayenne, where Tesla, Rivian and Lucid are ahead, why Porsche still refuses to embrace one-pedal driving, and whether removing the engine and sound takes away part of what makes a Porsche feel special.
We also get into one of the most interesting opportunities in the Porsche market right now: depreciation. When a Porsche that originally cost well over $100,000 can suddenly be bought used for $40,000 to $50,000, should Porsche enthusiasts start paying attention?
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QUESTION FOR YOU
Would you buy a heavily depreciated used Taycan, or would you spend the same money on a gas-powered Porsche?
And if Porsche eventually makes the Boxster and Cayman electric, can they still feel like real Porsches?
CHAPTERS
00:00 - Meet Jonny Lieberman
01:06 - Are Electric Porsches Actually Good?
02:30 - Taycan vs Audi RS e-tron GT
03:14 - The Problem With the Electric Macan
04:54 - Porsche’s Electric Cayenne Strategy
07:01 - Why Jonny Loves BMW’s Electric 7 Series
10:19 - Did Porsche Bet Wrong on EVs?
11:18 - What Happens to the Electric Boxster and Cayman?
13:40 - Can an EV Still Feel Like a Porsche?
18:08 - When Did Engine Sound Become So Important?
25:19 - Can Porsche Make an EV Feel Special?
27:40 - Tesla Full Self-Driving Changes the Conversation
29:38 - Jonny’s Tesla FSD Torture Test
31:20 - The Cybertruck and the Family of Skunks
33:29 - Porsche vs Tesla Driver Assistance
39:05 - Tesla and Rivian vs Traditional Automakers
39:46 - Why Porsche Won’t Use One-Pedal Driving
42:16 - Is Porsche Holding Onto the Past?
44:26 - Porsche Adds Fake Gears to the Taycan
46:42 - Do Fake Gears Belong in an Electric Porsche?
52:03 - Why Over-the-Air Updates Matter
54:08 - Tesla’s Hidden Software Advantage
56:08 - Volkswagen’s Software Problem
59:50 - Used Taycan Depreciation: Problem or Opportunity?
1:03:40 - Why Lucid May Survive
1:08:01 - Did Porsche Enter the EV Market at the Wrong Time?
1:11:05 - Why Should Anyone Buy a Porsche EV?
1:12:43 - Which Taycan Generation Should You Buy?
1:16:10 - The Secret to Successful EV Ownership
1:18:19 - Jonny’s Favorite Porsche Ever
1:26:51 - The Best Porsche for $60,000 to $75,000
1:28:29 - 997 vs 991 vs Air-Cooled 911
1:31:06 - The Porsche Carrera T Jonny Loves
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