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Recorded live in front of an audience at Muslim Tech Fest.
This episode asks whether the UK can actually become the global capital of Islamic finance — why halal home finance still costs 2% more than a conventional mortgage, why liquidity is the real bottleneck, and what it took to get the first partnership between an Islamic bank and an Islamic fintech over the line.
Guest experts: Raza Ullah, founder & CEO of Pfida, and Hamdi Abdullah, General Manager of Maybank UK
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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro: is Islamic finance really Islamic?
1:20 Meet the panel: Pfida, Maybank and Kestrl
2:05 £1m in 15 weeks — and why the UK may be the best place in the world to do Islamic finance
5:35 Ten years in: how UK Muslims got educated on riba7:58 Why Muslim-majority markets use Islamic finance less than we do
10:20 The 2% problem: why halal home finance costs more11:42 Liquidity is the real bottleneck — and why Maybank partnered instead of going it alone13:20 Pfida: built by the community, for the community
15:20 Community money vs institutional money: the case for a hybrid17:28 What success looks like in 5–10 years
19:50 Do we even call it Islamic? ESG, participation banking and silent dawah
22:08 Competition, Hajj and how big this market actually is
23:59 "Don't become a bank" — and will other Islamic banks follow Maybank?
25:55 Europe, France and why North America excites us more
29:46 Debanking, masjids and the case for business banking
31:23 Consolidation, exits and protecting the mission
34:19 Where should a Muslim charity put £1 million?
40:10 Do VCs want Islamic fintech — and do we want them?
43:09 What's next: Sharia-compliant insurance and credit cards
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