What if the way we’ve been taught to think about addiction and recovery is actually getting in the way of helping people? In this episode, I sit down with harm reduction pioneer DeeDee Stout to talk about autonomy, moderation, abstinence, AA, treatment, and why meeting people where they are can make the difference.
Timestamps:
00:00 Change your drinking intro
06:21 S*icide in AA
09:09 Unraveling AA beliefs about recovery
16:36 How AA became the default
20:17 Relapse prevention, harm reduction + abstinence
28:22 Addiction treatment w/o abstinence
36:00 AA: mainstream recovery narrative + policy
46:39 D*ath threats from AA members
53:16 Brad Pitt drinking moderately
58:14 Thinking about drinking again
1:00:00 Bill W was her grand sponsor
1:04:24 Getting support w alcohol addiction + moderation
1:14:15 S*xual trauma, addiction + recovery
1:21:39 Informed consent: addiction recovery + AA
1:41:35 A shift in the recovery world
1:51:14 Books to help change your drinking
1:56:00 Working with Dee-Dee Stout
🔥 Free Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here
🧠 Brain optimization tools → here
❤️🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here
Come vibe with me:
Kirsten's Facebook
Kirsten's Instagram
Kirsten's TikTok
📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here
💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here
⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care.
💖 Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.