In world where we’re constantly encouraged to want more, how do you find the courage to say no?
Founder and CEO of 37signals (makers of Basecamp, HEY, and ONCE) Jason Fried joins the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation covering software products and services, saying ‘no’ to millions, learning drums, and more. Jason shares his unique perspectives on building and running a hugely successful software company while staying true to his values.
Join us as we explore Jason's story and learn about:
The motivation behind Basecamp's recent expansion into new products like email and calendar apps
How Jason and his co-founder have structured the company to maximize independence and avoid things they don't want to do
Thoughts on wealth and what he plans to do with the financial success of Basecamp
Current interests and passions outside of work, and what he would do if he couldn't run Basecamp anymore
Books and favorite products
Whether you're a tech entrepreneur or simply fascinated by the career of one of the industry's most unconventional and opinionated leaders, Jason's experiences and philosophies are sure to challenge and inspire you. Tune in for an honest and spontaneous discussion touching on the deepest questions in life and business.
00:00 - Introduction 2:20 - Inspiration Behind Hey Calendar 3:47 - Fantastical vs. Hey Calendar 4:55 - What Keeps Jason Going 7:24 - Why Hey Calendar Caps at $99 9:09 - Jason’s Commitment to Independence 12:59 - Limits to Improvement and Acceptance 15:56 - Jason’s Plans on Growing His Business 19:12 - Learning to Trust CEO Hires 20:59 - Why Jason Decided to Build New Products After 10 Years 24:21 - Changing Your Mind & Balancing Growth and Maintenance 28:06 - Keeping Businesses Simple 32:20 - What Jason Does With His Money 36:28 - The Courage to Close A Business 39:42 - The Burden of Wealth: Philanthropy and Responsibility 42:43 - Finding Joy in Spaces and Experiences 45:11 - Alternate Career Paths Jason is Drawn To 48:01 - The Future and Existential Worries 52:56 - Growing Old, the Younger Generation, and Life 59:27 - Things Jason Has Been Loving Lately 62:49 - Embracing Fiction: The Power of Storytelling
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