Rich reckons testers and QEs are the best positioned engineers of the next few years. Vern's question is whether a market that knows exactly what it wants also knows what it needs. Tell us which of us you think is closer, and why. If you violently agree or violently disagree, definitely tell us.


Questions, comments, concerns, corrections, all of it is welcome, and the more of you who share what is actually happening where you work, the better a picture the rest of us get.


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Links to stuff we mentioned during the pod:

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - ⚽️ Fresh World Cup wounds and new specs
03:34 - Careful what you shout from the rooftops
06:25 - The market is being very clear about what it wants
08:11 - Wanting vs needing
10:50 - Nobody enjoys writing test cases. Turns out that was practice
11:33 - The post, read out in full
13:38 - Rich joined that project as the AI QA and then…
15:50 - Building an agent felt suspiciously familiar
17:17 - "It's not my work": testing what the agent wrote
18:23 - Some engineers have not adapted, and it is not a skills problem
20:10 - The person on the project who found more bugs than Rich did
22:20 - "I don't know what a dedicated QA would have done"
24:09 - Two job numbers heading in opposite directions
26:09 - More code, more surface area: the maths from Vern's newsletter
28:06 - Why the model swore blind that Finnish was not on the list
30:02 - Steven Devonport takes issue with the word evolving
32:16 - Rich reckons most of the AI testing problem is old news
35:17 - The AI crowd reinvented exploratory testing and gave it another name
37:52 - Steve's tangent: which currency should we be spending?
42:46 - When 70/30 drifts to 55/45, who makes the call?
43:21 - We used to be handed our oracles
45:28 - Vern's problem with calling it a black box
46:59 - The Fat Controller heuristic (and his new name)
48:56 - The prompt was still asking for values that no longer existed
49:51 - Rashik Prasad: if everyone owns quality, who holds its shape?
50:58 - What an AI first mandate actually does to a company
52:45 - Everyone has hold of a different part of the elephant
55:26 - Jason Smith: responsibility travels, accountability stays put
56:29 - Four or five people changes more than you would think
59:09 - Your pod is not the only pod
1:01:12 - Responsible for the outcome, allowed to decide nothing
1:02:46 - Ten factories became a hundred
1:04:48 - The standards check nobody could build until now
1:05:28 - Vern remembers what everyone did to the linters
1:09:33 - Mostly right, most of the time, and the trap inside that
1:10:46 - Why Rich is excited anyway
1:12:05 - The market wants what it wants
1:12:43 - Wrap up

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