Have you ever felt a longing you could not explain?
In this episode of The Sacred Travel Podcast, Julia speaks with presbyterian pastor, author, traveler, and lifelong pilgrim Douglas Brouwer about the deeper longing that calls us beyond the familiar.
Together they explore pilgrimage, vulnerability, peacemaking, sacred encounters, indigenous wisdom, and the unnoticed moments that quietly transform our lives.
What begins as a conversation about travel unfolds into a reflection on curiosity, humanity, faith, and the art of truly seeing one another.
๐ The Meaning of Sehnsucht & The Call Beyond The Familiar
Discover the deeper spiritual longing that calls some people beyond the familiar and into a life of exploration, growth, and continual discovery.
๐ฅพ Why Pilgrimage Transforms Us
Explore how journeys such as the Camino de Santiago invite vulnerability, openness, and unexpected encounters that transform us from the inside out.
๐ค The Art of Bridge Building
Learn how curiosity, listening, and genuine presence can help us connect across cultures, beliefs, and differences and truly see one another as equal.
๐ฟ Braiding Sweetgrass & Indigenous Wisdom
Hear Dougโs reflections on relationship, reciprocity, and what becomes possible when we remain open to wisdom beyond our own traditions.
โจ Finding the Sacred in Ordinary Moments
Why life's most profound turning points often arrive quietly and unexpectedly, hidden within seemingly ordinary moments of everyday life, rather than through dramatic awakenings.ย
ABOUT DOUGLAS:
Douglas Brouwer (Doug) is a Presbyterian pastor and writer. He received his master's and doctoral degrees from Princeton Theological Seminary as well as a BA from Calvin University and served congregations across the U.S. and Europe, including senior pastorates in Zรผrich (Switzerland), Fort Lauderdale, Ann Arbor, and Wheaton IL, spanning over four decades.ย
He returned to Europe in retirement to serve as interim pastor in The Hague, the Netherlands.ย
He is the author of seven nonfiction books, including his most recent, The Traveler's Path (2025). He lives in Holland, Michigan, with his wife Susan DeYoung, who was an attorney in private practice for much of her career. His older daughter stepped into his footsteps as a Presbyterian pastor and his younger daughter is a health economist.
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๐ Connect with Doug:
Substack: https://dougsblog.substack.com/about
LinkedIn: @douglasbrouwer
Facebook: @douglas.brouwer.1
Instagram: @douglasbrouwer
ย เผห๐*:Resources Mentioned:
Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer
The Travelerโs Path: Finding Spiritual Growth & Inspiration Through Travel by Douglas Brouwer
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