Ambassador Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia and author of Autocrats Versus Democrats, joins Clearer Than Truth to examine how Vladimir Putin transformed Russia’s relationship with the West and why the war in Ukraine remains so difficult to end. McFaul argues that Putin’s greatest fear is not NATO expansion but the spread of democracy, which threatens the legitimacy of his autocratic rule. He reflects on the achievements and failures of the Obama administration’s Russia reset, contrasts Putin’s leadership with Mikhail Gorbachev’s approach to Eastern Europe, and discusses the uncertain prospects for political change inside Russia. The conversation also explores Ukraine’s nuclear disarmament and security guarantees, the risks of leaving Ukraine outside NATO, China and India’s limited roles in seeking peace, and why McFaul believes stronger military support for Ukraine and tougher sanctions offer a better path toward a negotiated settlement than appeasing Putin.
00:00 Michael McFaul on Russia and Putin 01:13 Why Putin Fears Democratic Expansion 02:07 What the Russia Reset Was Really About 03:45 What U.S.–Russia Cooperation Achieved 05:01 Why Dual-Track Diplomacy Failed 06:37 Could Russia Have Taken a Different Path? 08:22 How Putin Became More Paranoid and Imperial 09:36 Gorbachev, Eastern Europe, and Nuclear Secrets 11:23 Why Individual Leaders Shape History 12:35 Gorbachev vs. Putin on Democratic Movements 14:02 Why Arms Control Requires Verification 15:12 Could Putin Lose the Support of His Elites? 16:06 How Putin Tightened His Grip on Russia 18:19 Why Revolutions Seem Impossible—Until They Happen 19:15 Ukraine’s Independence and the Nuclear Question 20:27 Putin’s Early Political Years 22:16 The Budapest Memorandum and Ukraine’s Security 23:24 Should Ukraine Join NATO? 24:59 Why China and India Aren’t Helping End the War 26:27 Russia’s War as an Imperial Project 27:19 Why Appeasing Putin Won’t Work 29:06 What Putin Really Wants From Ukraine 30:37 Why Putin Wants the Donbas 31:56 Is Russia Trying to Break Ukraine’s Will? 32:20 The People Who Turned to Putin 34:33 How Propaganda Becomes a Business 35:28 The Dinner That Revealed Putin’s Worldview 37:07 Why Putin Thinks Everyone Can Be Bought 37:35 Michael McFaul’s Latest Book and Writing
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