Sam is the co-founder of Granola, the AI meeting notes app now valued at $1.5B. Granola has helped me survive (and even enjoy) countless meetings, so I was excited to learn how Sam uses AI to show up prepared. We also talked about building an AI-native company without the 996 grind and what design means when agents skip your app entirely.
Sam and I talked about:
(00:00) The AI brief Sam now relies on before every new meeting
(01:27) “What did I miss?”: Granola’s most used recipe
(03:45) Why Granola hides the transcript despite user complaints
(09:37) A Granola recipe to get feedback from founders
(13:54) Why Sam feels a pang of sadness when agents skip your UI
(19:30) Why Sam’s Figma use fell to 20% and how Granola stops slop
(26:14) Nacho: The agent every Granola employee asks first
(30:58) Why most people stop improving their product way too early
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