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How Marketing Creates Reality | Nir Eyal (Hooked)

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If you work in marketing, part of what you make is what people believe before they try the product.


Nir Eyal, author of Hooked and Indistractable and a former lecturer at Stanford's Graduate School of Business, joins Tim Soulo to talk about his new book, Beyond Belief, written with Julie Li. He brings the research behind that idea: a wine that tasted better with a higher price tag, IBS patients who felt relief from pills they knew were placebos, and two identical cars rated at opposite ends of the chart.


When marketing makes people expect a better product, they don't just say it's better, they experience it, which is why Nir says marketing "is the product.”


He shares:

- Why Liquid Death fans say the water tastes better, and what that says about marketing

- The fMRI wine study and two identical cars from the NUMMI plant: the same product, experienced differently

- A study IBS patients felt relief from pills they knew were placebos

- Why venting about a family member or a coworker only reinforces the beliefs you already have about them

- Why telling everyone about a big, long-term goal can make things worse


What does your customer believe about your product before they've even tried it?


**Where to find Nir:**

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal/

Website: https://www.nirandfar.com/


**Where to find Tim:**

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/

X: @timsoulo

Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/


Chapters:

00:00 Intro

00:56 Marketing and the Experience Loop

07:23 Beliefs vs. Fact

13:30 Planting Beliefs

27:50 The Four Questions

45:16 The Two Most Dangerous Words in English

53:02 Why Vision Boards Backfire

58:03 Announcing Your Goals

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