It is the parenting topic that turns calm people into control freaks. Phones. Dean and Sara are right in the thick of it with an 11 year old and the pressure is properly ramping up.

They get into the real stuff parents are dealing with right now. Dopamine hits, scrolling, attention spans, school rules, the social pressure of being the only kid without one, and the big question of whether you can make a smartphone work without it taking over.

Expect honesty, sarcasm, a few uncomfortable realisations about adult screen time, and practical ideas from other parents who have already been through it.

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