In this episode, I'm joined by leaders working at the highest levels of corporate legal practice, big law, and public service:
• Sonia Cisse, Tech, Cybersecurity, Privacy, E-Commerce, and Fintech Partner at Linklaters.
• David Mazur, Vice President, General Counsel, and Compliance Officer for Research and Development at Nestlé.
• Alexandre Verrien, Legal Executive and former Legal Director of France for Dell Technologies.
• Peter Boyce, Legal Deputy Director in the UK Civil Service and AI lead for his agency.
• Amy Cronin, Senior Director of Legal at Skyscanner.
We explore one of the biggest questions facing the legal profession: where should AI stop and human judgment begin?
From algorithmic bias and verification to governance, legal risk, and team culture, this conversation goes far beyond productivity tools. We discuss why human empathy, negotiation nuance, and strategic thinking remain the legal system's greatest strengths, and what core skills lawyers must build to thrive in the age of AI.
You'll hear perspectives on AI literacy, prompt engineering, legal data hygiene, and future-proof skill sets that most lawyers aren't talking about yet.
In this episode:
00:00 - Sonia Cisse: Adaptability & Legal Mindset Shifting
00:38 - AI Risk Assessment & Data Security Governance
01:01 - Generative AI Literacy & Operational Fluency
02:01 - AI-Augmented Career Positioning for Junior Lawyers
04:16 - Cross-Disciplinary Hybridization (Legal Data Science)
04:42 - The Newsletter
05:13 - Introduction David Mazur
05:23 - High-Level Strategic Legal Thinking & Deal Structuring
05:59 - Visual Legal Communication & Stakeholder Influence
06:27 - Scientific Experimentation & Applied Curiosity
07:40 - Secure Contextual Research & AI Thinking Partnership
08:55 - Strategic Regulatory Oversight & Ethical AI Governance
09:49 - Introduction Alexandre Verrien
10:08 - Complex Negotiation & Strategic Human Judgment
11:27 - "Human-in-the-Loop" Quality Control & Output Verification
11:55 - Advanced Prompt Engineering & Context Framing (Avoiding GIGO)
12:40 - Legal Data Hygiene & Corporate Information Architecture
13:33 - Legal Process Optimization & Change Leadership (PPT Framework)
14:58 - Introduction Peter Boyce & Amy Cronin
15:38 - Critical Thinking, Advocacy & High-Order Soft Skills
16:11 - Technical LLM Literacy & Vendor Evaluation
16:46 - Continuous Upskilling & Structured Innovation Management
17:23 - No-Code Legal Engineering & AI Agent Building
18:01 - AI Liability Ownership & Adaptive Growth Mindset
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