We know listeners have been requesting more Smash Bros. content, so today we're going deep into the weeds of the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate meta with friend of the show Lucy "Winters" Hayes (@lucyelise.bsky.social on Bluesky). Lucy is a longtime Smash Bros. competitive player and commentator, and Sean and Gigi are talking with her about UltRank's carefully assembled 2026 SSBU tier list that was just posted in May. (You can find the list here, and it may be helpful to look at during our conversation.) As Sean and Gigi ask questions about the list, Lucy is more than happy to provide a wealth of knowledge on why the competitive community ranks different characters the way they do. We also discuss what characters may still have unexplored potential, how interested players can start getting involved in their local Smash Bros. scenes., and the other fighting games Lucy's been enjoying lately.
Questions or comments about the show? Are there any changes you would make to UltRank's new tier list? We always love hearing from listeners, and you can reach us at mail@kirbyconversations.com or submit your question to us on social media.
Sean also has a new podcast covering the GameCube, Dreamcast, and other games of the 2000s called Millennium Edition, and we hope you will subscribe to that one as well! Find it on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. It's the first Sound Stone Network original podcast, and we would love to have your help in building an audience for this new show.
The Sound Stone Network is a collective of independent podcasters covering video game history. In addition to Kirby Conversations and Millennium Edition, our shows also include Darren Hupke's interview show Pixels and Polygons, Gooey and McKenna's Nintendo 64 history podcast Flashback 64, and Nic McConnell's game manual stream Instruction Derby.
Our opening music is by diamondthorns and arranged by Duncan "PixelTea" Smith (https://duncansmith.carrd.co/). This episode was edited by Sean and Gooey.
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