When “You’ll Be Healed” Is the Wrong Thing to Say with Jackie Aviles

In 2016, doctors gave young mother Jackie Aviles six months to live. As cancer spread through her bones and lymph nodes, she prepared her children for her death and even chose a casket. Now, ten years cancer-free, Jackie tells Steve how faith, medicine, grief, and what she describes as God’s supernatural healing shaped her family’s journey. Jackie and her husband, pastor Emilio, also faced the pain of leading a church while grieving—and learned that listening can matter more than offering easy reassurance. Their conversation explores hope when healing doesn’t come, the difference between caring and carrying, and why peace may matter more than clarity.

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Jackie Aviles’ website

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Learn about the Bright City Church team

Scripture Referenced:

2 Corinthians 4 ESV

2 Corinthians 1:3–4 ESV

2 Corinthians 12:9 ESV

Romans 5:3–5 ESV

Philippians 4:7 ESV

Romans 8:28 ESV

Philippians 1:21 ESV

Philippians 1:6 ESV

Isaiah 40:31 ESV

Isaiah 53:5 ESV

Mark 4:35–41 ESV

John 15:5 ESV

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