Curiosity, grit, and the mindset to build.


Recorded live at RSAC, this conversation starts in a familiar place for the podcast, not with strategy, but with the instincts that shape how people lead.


Listen to Part 1 for a grounded look at the traits that shape modern marketing leaders and why they still matter in a changing industry.


Host Alastair Hussain interviews:

  • Sunil Frida, CMO at Zscaler

  • Genefa Murphy, CMO JFrog


Part of the How to Grow a CMO cyber mini-series, from tmp


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