The hacker who will attack your organization in five years is in primary school right now, and nobody is teaching them anything. Tim Murck, Co-founder & Chief Product Officer at HackShield, joins Lieuwe Jan Koning, Co-founder & CTO at ON2IT, to explain how a game turns kids aged 7 to 12 into junior cyber agents instead of future attackers. 

The method is not fear. It is teaching kids to ask one question: how are they going to trick me?

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Charpters:


00:00:00 The hacker who will attack you is in school now

00:00:27 From actor to HackShield: meet Tim Murck

00:02:00 The mission: digital scouting for kids 7 to 12

00:03:53 Junior cyber agents and the Dutch police

00:05:26 Inside the HackShield universe

00:10:02 Adversarial thinking and the grooming theme

00:13:35 Why age 7 to 12, and the school system's blind spot

00:14:53 Ban phones, or teach kids to swim?

00:18:42 The numbers: half a million Dutch kids, 850,000 worldwide

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