The Grateful Podcast with Jack Wagoner Episode 154
Two years ago I sent 200 cold emails and got zero replies. This week I turned down offers from two of the biggest podcast networks in the world.
The distance between those two things is 150 conversations with founders, psychologists, behavioral researchers, and authors. I went in looking for tactics. I came out with six rules, and they are the only six I still follow.
One of them I fought for a long time. Alex Hormozi says confidence is a stack of evidence that you are who you say you are. After 150 interviews I think the order runs the other way, and the day I acted like it, I drove to Toronto with a negative bank balance to record two episodes I could not afford.
If you are waiting for something to arrive before you move, start with rule five.
⏰ TIMESTAMPS
00:00 — The only six that survived
00:21 — Rule 1: Volume beats talent, always
02:09 — Why consistency was the wrong goal
06:53 — Rule 2: Embarrassment is the cost of entry
08:20 — 200 emails, zero replies
09:58 — Rule 3: Attention is the real currency
11:28 — The people one level below guard everything
13:14 — Rule 4: Gratitude has to be earned
13:56 — Anyone can be grateful on a sunny day
16:31 — Rule 5: Bet on yourself when the evidence says stop
16:40 — Where Hormozi has the order backwards
17:47 — Negative money and a drive to Toronto
20:13 — Breaking the terror barrier
22:36 — Rule 6: Have faith the dots connect
25:23 — Ask what if now, or ask it later
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🎙️ About Jack:
I moved to France alone at 16, started my first business at 17, and launched this podcast because I kept meeting people who had the answers to questions I didn't even know I was asking. My philosophy: you can set massive goals while being deeply fulfilled right now. That's the duality of gratitude and ambition.
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