What if religion didn’t need belief at all? Zach sits down with Dr. Joshua Pritikin, a psychological counselor and Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner in Oregon who holds a PhD in quantitative psychology. He’s the author of Religion Unburdened by Belief: The Way of Open Inquiry. Joshua explains how IFS “parts” can help define altered states. He gives Zach a simple tweak to his transcendental meditation practice to quiet a racing mind. He also takes us inside the Santo Daime ceremonies he has attended for four years. The conversation covers psychedelics and safety, bad trips, the war on drugs, and what might happen when we die.
In this episode:
What Internal Family Systems is and how “parts” show up in everyday mixed feelings
Defining altered states, and why the usual definition is fuzzy
A notepad trick that can make meditation feel effortless
How Santo Daime ceremonies use group singing to keep participants present
Blending vs. unblending, and why it’s key to avoiding a bad trip
Zach’s experience with ketamine therapy and grief after losing his father
Joshua’s views on prohibition, harm reduction and psychedelic medicine
His step-by-step path: talk therapy, then meditation, a CBD/CBN blend, then psychedelics
Content beliefs vs. process beliefs, and why the book asks readers to hold content beliefs loosely
Consciousness, near-death experiences, 5-MeO-DMT and the afterlife
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