Why are people willing to give up power in exchange for the promise of protection? Recorded live with Northern California Grantmakers at SFJAZZ, host Jamie Allison invited Dr. Ibram X. Kendi, renowned historian and scholar, and Glen Galaich, CEO of the Stupski Foundation, to discuss their new books, Dr. Kendi’s Chain of Ideas: The Origins of Our Authoritarian Age, and Glen’s CONTROL: Why Big Giving Falls Short.

Together, Dr. Kendi and Glen explore what it takes to move away from distrust and zero-sum thinking toward trust, solidarity, and shared responsibility. Their conversation asks a timely question of both democracy and philanthropy: what becomes possible when we stop treating one another as threats and start recognizing how connected we actually are?

💡Dr. Ibram X. Kendi: “The weakest link in the chain of ideas are those who believe they're not connected to the rest of us.”

Order Dr. Ibram X. Kendi’s book,Chain of Ideas: The Origins of Our Authoritarian Age, and his new children’s book, The Power of Our. Learn about his work at theHoward University Institute for Advanced Study.

Learn about the Walter and Elise Haas Fund, Northern California Grantmakers, and the Stupski Foundation.

Order your copy of Glen’s book, CONTROL: Why Big Giving Falls Short.

Host: Jamie Allison

Guests: Dr. Ibram X. Kendi & Glen Galaich

Executive Producer: Claire Callahan

Production Team: SFJazz and Podfly

Video Editing: SeeBoundless

Graphic Design: Middle MGMT

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