Josh Baron, Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School and co-founder of Banyan Global Family Business Advisors, joins R. Adam Smith to explore why the field has moved beyond succession planning toward something broader. Baron argues that ownership, not inheritance, is the most powerful force in business, and that capable owners look very different depending on whether they operate, govern, or invest. He walks through his four room model for healthy governance, the purpose gap that opens after a liquidity event, and the six forces that pull successful families apart. A practical conversation on the kind of family office management and culture that endures across generations.00:00 Welcome to the Audiocast01:06 Introducing Josh Baron02:46 Beyond the old succession model04:45 The three roles of owners06:30 Why inheritance doesn't make owners12:40 Healthy governance and the four rooms16:24 The rise of the business family17:40 The purpose gap after a sale20:00 How the advisor ecosystem grew21:30 The six forces that break families24:50 What's predictable about breakdowns26:40 Good practices most families skip27:20 The five Cs that define survivors30:36 Building a culture of curiosity32:00 Closing thoughts on continuity

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