Kathy Seabrook — Founder & CEO of Global Solutions Inc. and a standards architect on ISO 45001 and ANSI Z10 — joins Mousa to make the case that safety has always been the people side of sustainability. She walks through "impact valuation": putting the value workers create onto the P&L using data finance already understands. It's a conversation about money that keeps coming back to people as a great business decision.

In this episode:
• Why the harm-reduction argument has run its course 
• "Impact valuation" — pricing the value people create, not the cost of harm 
• Discretionary energy and the cost of re-hiring: making safety measurable 
• Why "what gets measured gets managed" keeps teams stuck 
• The one question to ask when you hit the boardroom wall

⏱️ Chapters
00:00 Introduction 
01:53 Heart, compassion and trust at the core of safety 
06:17 The chemistry class that changed her career 
09:42 "I just said yes" — ASSP, ISO standards, a career of saying yes 
19:48 What impact valuation actually means 
24:12 Discretionary energy: the 150% worker efficiency
26:16 Putting retention on the P&L (the $6,000 hire) 
29:32 An ergonomics business case a CFO can follow 
37:25 Why safety teams stay stuck 
42:49 The one question for a stuck safety leader 
47:01 Why safety is already inside human-capital metrics

🔗 Connect with Kathy Seabrook on linkedin
· Book: Connecting the Dots: Environment, Health, Safety, and Sustainability (Wiley, 2024)

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