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The people building AI are starting to sound scared of what they're building. Amith Nagarajan and Mallory Mejias take on the AI safety debate that broke into public view this September: a researcher's resignation from Anthropic, alignment lead Evan Hubinger's one-in-ten estimate of catastrophic risk, and the "Pacing the Frontier" letter that put OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind leadership on the same page. They trace what happened when OpenAI's agents hacked Hugging Face, unpack Dario Amodei's call to slow the pace of frontier capabilities, and sit with the tension between racing ahead and pumping the brakes. Then they turn practical, walking through the five things - the ground, the model, the data, the autonomy, and the scope - every association can control no matter what the labs decide. Amith argues that responsible AI adoption and aggressive AI adoption aren't actually in conflict. Whether you're unsettled by the headlines or building your own AI roadmap, this episode offers a clear-eyed way to think about both.
 
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📰 Dario Amodei's Essay, "We Must Pace the Frontier": https://darioamodei.com/post/we-must-pace-the-frontier

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🛠 AI Tools and Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Claude ➔ https://claude.ai
Hugging Face ➔ https://huggingface.co
GPT-OSS-120B ➔ https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-oss/
GPT-4o ➔ https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/
Qwen ➔ https://chat.qwen.ai
METR ➔ https://metr.org
MemberJunction ➔ https://memberjunction.org
Databricks ➔ https://databricks.com
Microsoft Fabric ➔ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-fabric

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Amith Nagarajan is the Chairman of Blue Cypress, a family of purpose-driven companies and proud practitioners of Conscious Capitalism. The Blue Cypress companies focus on helping associations, non-profits, and other purpose-driven organizations achieve long-term success. Amith is also an active early-stage investor in B2B SaaS companies. He’s had the good fortune of nearly three decades of success as an entrepreneur and enjoys helping others in their journey.

https://linkedin.com/amithnagarajan

Mallory Mejias is passionate about creating opportunities for association professionals to learn, grow, and better serve their members using artificial intelligence. She enjoys blending creativity and innovation to produce fresh, meaningful content for the association space. Mallory co-hosts and produces the Sidecar Sync podcast, where she delves into the latest trends in AI and technology, translating them into actionable insights.

https://linkedin.com/mallorymejias