In this episode of the NAJGA Podcast, host Tim Gruner sits down with Greg Afman of Rettig Garden Fostering and Stewardship at Anderson Japanese Gardens for a wide-ranging conversation about the experiences, ideas, and philosophies that have shaped his approach to Japanese gardens.


Greg traces his journey from an early fascination with bonsai to an intensive apprenticeship in Japan and the transformative moment when encountering a mature Japanese maple changed the direction of his career.


He reflects on his years working alongside renowned garden designer Hoichi Kurisu and explores some of the lessons that continue to influence his work—from understanding ma and kisei  to recognizing the relationship between individual elements and the garden as a whole.

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