In this episode of Terribly and Terrifyingly Normal, we speak with Jack El-Hai, author of The Nazi and the Psychiatrist, the book that inspired the movie Nuremberg.

Together with Prof. Alette Smeulers (University of Groningen), we explore:

  • How Jack El-Hai researched and wrote the book

  • His insights on Hermann Göring and Douglas Kelley

  • What the movie Nuremberg gets right — and what it leaves out

  • Whether Nazi leaders were “ordinary men”

  • What this history teaches us about perpetrators of mass atrocities

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