You've probably been in a conversation about race that went nowhere. Everyone was careful, no one was honest, and nothing changed. This episode is about why that keeps happening, and how to break through it. We had guest Bayanne Elkhatib MS, LPC-A (the Texas Therapist) on the mic to help us get to the root of what makes these conversations so uncomfortable, what we're really asking when we call something a preference, and where the line between preference and prejudice actually falls.
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