On this episode of the On Water Podcast, Jin Choi sits down with four-time guest Ruth Altaye to talk about how their friendship formed and deepened over three years through shared church community, worship, and one pivotal seven-hour conversation marked by vulnerability. They reflect on the difference between “intentional/ministry” conversations and truly knowing someone, and how communication, clarification, and noticing each other’s needs helped them navigate anxious/avoidant tendencies, misunderstandings, and a few disagreements. They discuss friendship “seasons,” learning not to measure closeness by feelings or time alone, and choosing trust based on history and character. They also explore sacrifice in friendship as joyful giving of time, effort, and comfort, and end by encouraging listeners to do the work with God, pursue community, invite others, and not view themselves as defective in relationships.
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