Around 2014 I typed that exact question into Google. It started everything Dawn and I do now.
This is part one of a two-part series, and it's for the men. Dawn and I get into why the pull you felt at the beginning never actually died, how desire slowly turns into obligation, and why you can never talk a woman into wanting you. Then we get practical about the half of this a man can actually control.
Next week, part two: her side of it.
In this episode we get into:
What sex and desire were like at the beginning for us, and what that proves
The "infatuation stage" assumption, and why I refused to believe it
How wanting each other turns into trying to keep each other
Why there's no room for desire inside obligation
The night I lay in bed arguing with Dawn about why she should want me
Deciding to stop asking her to want me, and to become a man she actually wants
Choosing to stay, even if it never worked, and what that taught me about devotion
Dawn's honest take on how most men present themselves (she doesn't pull punches)
The low-hanging fruit: clothes, grooming, shoes, fitness, and getting your health checked
Whether you actually approve of women being sexual beings, and the Madonna-whore split
How enmeshment makes desire structurally impossible
Chapters 00:00 The question that started everything 03:11 What sex was like at the beginning 06:24 Where does the pull go? 08:40 The "infatuation stage" 11:03 Can you want what you already have? 12:29 From wanting each other to keeping each other 13:31 What changed in me 16:22 Desire is something she feels in response to you 19:16 Stress, money, and the man she stopped seeing 22:03 The half you can control 23:31 The night I tried to talk her into wanting me 26:54 Done asking, becoming a man she wants 32:07 Choosing to stay 34:04 Physical attraction matters 35:03 Dawn on how men present themselves 39:14 The easy stuff: clothes, grooming, shoes 41:11 How would you show up if you were dating again? 42:05 Get your health checked 43:11 Do you approve of women's sexuality? 45:09 The Madonna-whore split 49:36 She's a sexual being, and not only toward you 52:15 Enmeshment and your independent life 53:21 You can still have this
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