Mike Mandel is a world-leading hypnotist with over 50 years of professional experience. He's performed nearly 5,000 stage shows, trained over 10,000 students at his Toronto hypnosis academy, and co-hosts the Brain Software podcast.
Our conversation bridges hypnosis, Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, pain management, and meaning-making—showing how different healing traditions can discover the same truths about how minds heal.
Whether you're a therapist curious about hypnosis, an IFS practitioner, or simply fascinated by how minds work and heal, this conversation will expand your understanding.
You'll hear:
The "bungalow model" of ego states and stunning parallels with IFS therapy
How hypnosis stopped a severe burn from forming (tiny firemen with liquid nitrogen!)
The history of hypnosis from ancient Egypt to Milton Erickson
Why you need at least three models of reality (not just one)
How Mike reframed chronic pain from suffering into a reminder he's alive
Kitchen surgery stories that will blow your mind
Rapid-fire questions about meaning, legacy, and what matters most
⚠️ WARNING: Mike starts with a brief hypnotic demonstration. Pay attention—the more you focus, the more you'll experience it. We unpack how he did it at the end.
"Everything is an ego state issue without exception." — Mike Mandel
Key Timestamps
05:50 - The Forgetting Demonstration
07:28 - Ego States & The Bungalow Model
15:23 - IFS & Hypnosis: Stunning Parallels
21:50 - The Frozen Baby: A Profound Healing Story
35:25 - Pain vs. Suffering
40:52 - The Burn Treatment Story
45:55 - What IS Trance?
56:26 - History of Hypnosis: Mesmer to Erickson
1:07:44 - How the Forgetting Demo Worked
1:18:18 - Rapid-Fire Meaning Questions
Resources
MikeMandelHypnosis.com
Brain Software Podcast
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