Two of our comedy heroes putting the world to rights? Oh, go on then.

Stew and Josie talk political activism in comedy, and pessimism of the intellect vs optimism of the will. How does one engage revolutionary optimism, and when did Josie come to realise that her comedy shows have been doing just that? They discuss the desire for physical media and the impermanence of "clip comedy", and how to ride out the storm. They ask "What do artists do with the document of what they do?" and lament the thankless work of blazing a trail.

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