In this episode, I chat with Kilian, CEO of Boltz, the non-custodial Bitcoin bridge making fast, trust-minimized swaps across Lightning, on-chain, Liquid, and even Rootstock.
If you want a clear, no-nonsense map of Bitcoin layers, and how to ship real products on them, this one’s for you.
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00:00 - Intro 00:39 - What Boltz does? 02:06 - Shanghai to BTC China 07:18 - Crackdowns in China and the exit in 2017 11:13 - From liquidity pain to product: the birth of Boltz 19:04 - How a Boltz swap works 28:30 - Risks, refunds, and the new 12-word “rescue key” flow 32:59 - Auto-refunds in wallets and making failure painless 37:05 - Non-custodial by design 46:03 - On-chain upgrades: CTV, plus BitVM-style bridges beyond federations 49:49 - ARC & Arcade explained 58:38 - Advice to builders: solve real problems, start with a web app  1:01:12 - Closing Thoughts