What happens to the parts of us that don't go away when someone we love leaves?


This is Part Two of Julia Carmen's conversation with Catherine Gairard, harpist and musician carrying a lineage both French and Peruvian. Catherine's mother passed away earlier this year, and what she's experienced since isn't grief in the usual sense.


Julia meets her here freshly grieving her own loss, and shares a moment of very human, unscripted grief of her own. Together, they explore knowing the truth of the soul self doesn't cancel out the body's need to feel its pain.

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