In this episode of The Mind Change Podcast, host Heather McKean welcomes former client Jolie Justice to share how rewiring subconscious patterns transformed her relationship with birth, her body, and motherhood.
After two unplanned C-sections, Jolie explored the childhood experiences, ancestral stories, and beliefs that were shaping her birth experiences. Four years later, she reflects on how that work led to a successful VBAC, greater trust in her body, and lasting change that continues into her current pregnancy.
Together, they discuss birth trauma, subconscious programming, memory, compassion, and how changing the stories we carry can create new possibilities for the future.
EPISODE TOPICS:
🌱 Healing Beyond Birth (00:01:04)
📱 Finding Mind Change Through Instagram (00:03:14)
🤰 Two C-Sections and the Desire for Something Different (00:03:38)
👩👧 How Childhood and Our Mothers Shape Birth (00:08:36)
🧬 Ancestral Stories and Subconscious Programming (00:09:15)
🧠 Why Memory Isn't Fixed (00:11:33)
🫂 Learning to Live in the Body Instead of the Mind (00:14:14)
🔓 Hypervigilance, Control and Letting Go (00:15:49)
💛 Releasing Shame Around Previous Births (00:19:05)
🌸 Rewiring Trauma Before a New Pregnancy (00:27:10)
🏡 A Successful VBAC After Two C-Sections (00:27:50)
✨ Trusting the Unknown During Birth (00:33:25)
🌍 How Birth Changes More Than Birth (00:38:02)
💬 Advice for Women Preparing for Motherhood (00:39:53)
👶 Rewriting Birth Stories for Existing Children (00:47:18)
🎓 Mind Change Resources for Birth (00:57:00)
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