"The loudset thing in the room is not always the thing worth listening to.
You start with one person, one idea, one voice, and someone having the nerve to believe in it before anyone else does."
We're joined by CREO co-owner Jordan Thorne to talk about their recent rebrand of the Cymru Premier and the heritage-centred approach they took to creating a new identity for Welsh football.
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