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114: Why People Aren’t Listening to You (And How to Change That) | Rob D. Willis

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Have you ever thought, “If I could just explain it better, they’d understand”? I have. But sometimes, the more we explain, the more we lose the person listening.

My guest today is Rob D. Willis, a strategic story producer whose background in music production and thousands of walking tours in Berlin taught him how to get people’s attention and keep it.

In this conversation, we explore why more facts don’t always change minds, what makes someone want to hear your next sentence, and how to share what you know without overexplaining. Rob also shares how to prepare without sounding rehearsed, work with your nerves, and use AI to organize your ideas while keeping your own voice.

Whether you’re presenting at work, creating content, or trying to get an idea across over dinner, this episode will give you practical ways to make your message clearer and more memorable. Plus, Rob leaves us with a simple storytelling challenge you can try this week.

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Mentioned in this episode:

  • Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
  • Hannah Fry
  • Homework for Life by Matthew Dicks

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