Diane Sadowski-Joseph, co-founder of Clarinet, joins me to talk about what it actually means for a company - and its leaders - to become AI-enabled.
We start with the increasingly common mandate to “do the AI thing.” Diane explains why that instruction is almost meaningless until leaders connect AI back to the business outcomes they already care about: growth, profitability, market share, efficiency, and better decision-making. AI isn’t the strategy. It’s another lever available to help execute the strategy.
We also get into the very human side of AI adoption: fear, identity, judgment, resilience, and why leaders don’t need to become AI experts. They need what Diane calls decision-grade fluency - enough hands-on understanding to know when AI is useful, when it isn’t, and how to make better strategic decisions around it. We unpack A, B, and C loops for redesigning workflows, how to move from fear to curiosity, what causes “AI slop,” and why managers need to get much clearer about what good work actually looks like.
Who Am I? If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps: 01:00 – Why “Do the AI Thing” Is a Blurry Mandate 03:30 – The Fear and Identity Crisis Behind AI Adoption 05:40 – Why Judgment and Discernment Matter More Now 08:20 – AI Is Redesigning Work, Not Just Adding Another Tool 12:20 – Strong Convictions, Loosely Held 15:50 – The “Aggressive Resilience” AI Requires 18:20 – Why You Don’t Need to Become an AI Expert 22:10 – Decision-Grade AI Fluency 26:10 – The Superuser Flywheel: Start With Friction 28:30 – How Do You Prove AI Is Creating Business Value? 29:20 – A Loops, B Loops, and C Loops 33:00 – Connect AI Efficiency to Outcomes That Matter 36:50 – What Good Leadership Looks Like in the AI Era 38:10 – Why Teams Produce “AI Slop” 40:40 – Be Clear About Where the Saved Time Goes 42:50 – How Clarinet Helps Companies Become AI-Enabled
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