In this episode, Chad and Natalie sit down with John Nettles for an unfiltered conversation about addiction, recovery, identity, and finding hope after years of chaos.
John shares his journey from being adopted and discovering his biological family years later, to a decade-long battle with alcoholism, cocaine addiction, prescription Xanax dependence, and the nightlife lifestyle as a DJ and concert promoter. He opens up about multiple treatment attempts, legal trouble, blackouts, near-death experiences, and the emotional toll addiction took on both him and the people who loved him.
The turning point came when one phone call challenged everything John thought he knew about sobriety, leading him to discover the difference between simply being abstinent and truly living in recovery.
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Timestamps: 0:00 — Cold open 1:23 — Show intro, Natalie and Chad 4:04 — Born in Richmond, adopted 5:17 — Finding his birth parents through Ancestry.com 6:05 — His birth mom found him through his old DJ page 8:09 — His adoptive dad's own addiction and recovery 11:22 — First treatment at 16, prescribed Xanax 12:24 — First drink, using heavy by 12-13 14:41 — Parents find pills in his room, first treatment program 15:16 — Diagnosed with GAD, put on Ambien and Xanax at 16 17:10 — First time doing cocaine at 15 20:12 — First inpatient treatment, Sierra Tucson 23:10 — Concert promoter years, fentanyl hits the scene 27:57 — First DUI at 18 32:19 — The Vegas bachelor party bender 33:13 — Wedding meltdown, ketamine and a bottle of Xanax 35:35 — Grandma's house in Newport, first blackout disappearance 39:09 — Another DUI, relapses straight out of the impound lot 41:15 — A childhood friend dies, drinks through the funeral 42:44 — Back at Grandma's, wakes up with blood on his hands 45:09 — The call to interventionist Bob Mary 48:24 — His last drink and drug 49:51 — His grandmother's final days 52:02 — Staying teachable in sobriety 53:34 — Ryan Holiday and the truth about treatment 56:20 — Falls into a career working in treatment 1:00:06 — Making amends to his dad 1:01:54 — His grandmother passes days before his one-year sober 1:05:10 — Headlining a sober charity show 1:06:38 — Starting his own podcast 1:18:43 — Chad's own relapse while working in treatment 1:19:31 — What's broken about the addiction treatment industry 1:21:08 — What "the right way" to do treatment looks like 1:23:14 — Aftercare, and going home to the same life 1:25:24 — The gift of desperation
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