What does it take to go from growing up on welfare in Jamaica, Queens to running your own penetration testing company on your own terms?Patrick Gorman, better known as InfoSecPat, has lived that path, and his story proves that where you start doesn’t decide where you end up.Patrick is the CEO and founder of ISP Security, a pen testing firm built to give startups and small businesses access to testing they can actually afford. He brings experience across network, systems and cloud security, detection engineering and nearly four years as a CISO for a credit union, and he recently stepped into a new role as head trainer for a CISO program.Pat explains why he chose freedom over chasing millions, the business headache nobody warns new founders about, and how an hour a day of his own marketing keeps the leads coming in. He also shares why governing AI tools like ChatGPT and Microsoft Copilot is one of the biggest new challenges for today’s CISOs.Whether you’re thinking about starting your own cybersecurity business, working toward a CISO role, or wondering how much of yourself to share online, this episode is packed with honest insight. Stick around for the story behind Hack the Odds, the book Pat is writing now.Chapters00:00 Intro02:15 Pat’s InfoSecPat Origin Story04:39 Building ISP Security for Small Businesses08:37 Trading the 9 to 5 for Freedom11:45 The Hardest Part of Running a Business13:43 How Pat Markets His Pen Testing Business16:51 Brand Deals and a Privacy Wake-Up Call19:29 Teaching the Next Generation of CISOs24:35 What the Internet Doesn’t Know About You29:25 Why Showing Off Success Draws Hate34:59 Growing Up in Jamaica, Queens40:23 Hack the Odds and Pat’s Final Advice=========================Connect with Patrick Gorman (InfoSecPat):LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/infosecpat/ISP website: https://ispsecurity.co/Pat's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfoSecPatPat's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/infosecpat/Previous episode featuring Pat: https://youtube.com/live/jjk4Fgfogd4=========================Connect with your host, Phillip Wylie:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/phillipwylieX: https://x.com/PhillipWylieInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/phillipwylie

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