Returning guest Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds breaks down his new book, The Second Incursion: Fallen Beings, Giants, and What Walks Among Us Still, arguing the war against giants described in Genesis 6 didn't end with Noah's flood, but restarted after the Tower of Babel. Bennett explains the bed of Og of Bashan, a Raphaim king whose iron bed measured over 13 feet long, walks through the difference between Nephilim and Raphaim, and lays out a theory that 70 divine beings were assigned to the nations scattered at Babel, some of whom went rogue and repeated the same corruption described before the flood. The conversation covers a theory that ziggurats and pyramids built across the ancient world functioned as an attempted gate between heaven and earth, worldwide traditions of hidden people from Sasquatch to the fae, and how Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA might connect to this same ancient bloodline. Bennett's book, The Second Incursion, is available now.
In This Episode
• Returning guest Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds joins the show to unpack his new book, which tackles a question he says most churches never touch: what if the flood didn't actually end the war with the giants? Bennett opens by explaining the bed of Og of Bashan, one of the last surviving Raphaim kings, whose iron bedframe is described in Deuteronomy as roughly 13 to 14 feet long, a detail he argues was deliberately emphasized to convey both its size and its unusual iron construction.
• Bennett lays out his own working distinction between Nephilim and Raphaim, defining Nephilim as giants that existed before the flood and Raphaim as their post flood counterparts, while stressing that this is his own synthesis pulled from researchers like Gary Wayne, Chuck Missler, and Michael Heiser rather than a settled consensus.
• The core of Bennett's second incursion theory starts at the Tower of Babel: after God scatters the nations and confuses their languages, Bennett argues that 70 divine beings, or Elohim, were assigned authority over those newly scattered nations, with Israel reserved for God himself. He believes at least some of these beings eventually went rogue in their own territories, effectively repeating the corruption of Genesis 6 on a smaller, more localized scale.
• Rye and Bennett discuss a theory that ziggurats and pyramids built independently across cultures worldwide weren't simply religious monuments, but attempts to construct a literal gate or portal between heaven and earth, mirroring the ambition behind the original Tower of Babel.
• The conversation turns to the subtitle of Bennett's book, which claims some of these beings still walk among us today. Bennett connects this to worldwide traditions of hidden people, from Sasquatch and Dogman sightings to older folklore like the fae and the Tuatha De Danann, arguing these separate traditions may be describing overlapping phenomena.
• Bennett also brings the conversation into modern genetics, raising the mystery of exactly what Neanderthals and Denisovans actually were, and floating the theory that traces of Nephilim or Raphaim bloodlines could be part of the explanation, noting that most humans alive today carry small amounts of this ancient DNA without knowing what to make of it.
• Bennett closes out by introducing his book directly: The Second Incursion: Fallen Beings, Giants, and What Walks Among Us Still, which covers Genesis 6, the second incursion after Babel, biblical references to corruption spreading beyond humanity to animals, and ties in the DNA evidence discussed earlier in the episode. He's already got a follow-up book in the works digging further into the genetic angle.
Best Line of the Night "What they're trying to do is build a gate between heaven and earth." Bennett, on the real purpose behind the ziggurats and pyramids built after Babel.
Guest Can Be Found Bennett's book is available on Amazon and through his own sites.
Website: bennetttonbooks.com
Podcast: broadcastingseeds.com
Book Title: The Second Incursion: Fallen Beings, Giants, and What Walks Among Us Still
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